Showing posts with label Karen Villanueva. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Karen Villanueva. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 09, 2015

CSOs and State 21, Patient Organizations, PAPO and HealthPRx


During the 2-days Medicines Transparency Alliance-Philippines' MeTA National Forum 2015 last February 17-18 held at Bayleaf Hotel in Manila, I noticed a significant change in NGOs involvement in public health discourse: a shift in active involvement from what I would call as "ideology-based" NGOs to "patients-based" NGOs. What is the difference between the two?



For me, the ideology-based NGOs tend to be more vocal against multinational and innovator pharma companies, against strong intellectual property rights (IPR) like patents of newly-invented medicines and vaccines, against price differentiation and advocate drug price control and mandatory price discounts. There is also implicit hatred of capitalism and support for health nationalization if not socialism.

The patients-based NGOs on the other hand are less vocal about those ideology-based concerns and are more concerned with helping patients of specific diseases have access with (a) financial assistance, (b) access to affordable medicines, and (c) support groups from fellow patient groups, other NGOs, academe, industry players and government.

After all, patients and their families do not care or segregate much whether the ones who can give them effective medicines or treatment are multinationals or local firms, innovators or generics, patented or off-patent drugs. An expensive but effective medicine would actually come as more useful and cheaper than cheap but ineffective (even substandard) medicine. The former would treat or kill a disease and improve the condition of the patient, the latter would allow an original disease to evolve and expand to something more dangerous, more lethal diseases. Of course the best scenario is cheap and effective medicines and vaccines.


So during the MeTA forum last February, I saw leaders of support groups for patients of diabetes, hepatitis, cancer, psoriasis, eyesight problems, cerebral palsy, etc. Cool. And while I have met some of them before, many others I have met there for the first time. This is a good and new development in public healthcare discussions.

Until recently, the state through the DOH and its support agencies like PhilHealth and FDA, was pressured by ideology-based advocacies like drug price control, 50 percent mandatory price cut of the most popular products of some multinational pharma. With the entry of patients-based NGOs, such politics of envy policies can be avoided or minimized.

Among those present at the MeTA Forum were the leaders of the Philippine Alliance of Patient Organizations (PAPO), the first umbrella or coalition of patient organizations in the Philippines advocating for universal access to health care and allied services, including persons with disabilities (PWDs). PAPO President or Director is Fatima "Girlie" Garcia-Lorenzo, who is also the Executive Director of Kythe Foundation, Inc. PAPO is a SEC-registered NGO.

PAPO has 12 member organizations: Akap Pinoy , Balikatang Thalassemia , Foundation for Sight, Haplos, Kythe Foundation, New Vois Association, Philippine Cerebral Palsy Inc. (PCPI), Phil. Society of Orphan Disorders (PSOD), Psoriasis Society of the Phils, Yellow Warriors, plus two others.

Girlie's deputy in PAPO is Karen Villanueva, another friend who retired from MSD pharma last year. Karen is a fellow UP alumni, she was in charge of public affairs of her company before.

Last Friday, Karen launched her new PR firm, Health PRx. As the name implies, it is a PR firm for healthcare-related campaigns and advocacies. Invited guests were Karen's family, friends, PR practitioners, former officemates at MSD, other players in the pharma sector, foreign and local. I was there, along with Jess Lorenzo, Girlie's husband and  is part of the company as its officer or director for good governance. Girlie was there too, we were seatmates in the table.


I asked Karen two questions about her company, who are their target clients, and in what sense that it is a patients-oriented PR firm?


Karen replied, 

“My target clients are persons or institutions who have a health advocacy and want to mainstream and popularize their cause. I also have to personally believe in their cause for me to take on the work. I would like to think that at the end of the day, everything we want to do for health should have the patients in mind.  And so my work in PAPO is an excellent way for me to ground my company and keep me focused on what is important.  It will be a constant and daily reminder to always put the patients perspective first.”

Cool views and mission, Karen. I wish PAPO and Health PRx a successful endeavor in the future.
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See also:
CSOs and State 18: Civil Society as Lobbyists for More Government? Cigarette Warning Bill, March 02, 2014 

Wednesday, September 17, 2014

Drug Price Control 41: Exchanges with Joey Ochave at MeTA PH

After my  discussion on CWF Wants Price Dictatorship for Lipitor, Joey Ochave, SVP of Unilab and Vice-Chairman of MeTA Philippines, reacted to it. We have a nice, friendly and civil discourse and mini-debate the past two days. The other members of MeTA PH (80+ people in the email loop) expressed satisfaction reading our exchanges. Copy-pasting them below raw, zero alteration even comma. Later, another friend, Karen Villanueva joined. Karen is from Merck and also MeTA PH member. Both Joey and Karen gave me permission to use their comments for this blog post.

The two tables below are not part of the original exchanges. I made them and inserted them here as additional background info about the price control or mandatory, forcible 50 percent price cut policy in August 2009. This is about 3,200 words,  six pages long including the two tables. Enjoy.
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I never thought I would say this – I agree with Nonoy. (Biro lang, Nonoy.) Price control is not the answer. It is not a sustainable policy instrument to address issues relating to access.

If I remember correctly, there was a preliminary study done before on the impact of the 2009 MDRP (or MRP, if one is to follow the text of the Cheaper Medicines Law). It showed that the ones who benefited most from the 50% price reduction were those who were buying the “originator” medicines and not the poor who were its intended beneficiaries. The poor, after all, were getting free medicines from the government or already using generic equivalents. (I do not, however, discount the possibility that there were some poor people who having been prescribed the originator brands never used generics and thus were able to benefit from the MDRP. I would assume though that their numbers were not significant.) Hence, if the policy objective is to provide access to the poor, then price control is not the answer. (I just learned from former UP College of Pharmacy Dean Yollie Robles that  she just completed a similar study. It would be good if she could share it with META.)


Further, the situation now is much different from that in 2009. Competition in the pharma sector has flourished since then. Filipino patients have more choices now than before, with several brands at different price points for every non-patent protected molecule. Since 2009, generic drugstores have thrived due to the successful marketing programs of TGP and Generika. Even Watsons has seen it fit to introduce now its Watsons Generics brand, with all the marketing gloss that one would previously associate only with “branded” medicines. More importantly, the government put in more money for medicines, with the latest figures showing a 40% increase in budget. Many expect this to grow further as Universal Healthcare becomes a reality. After oncology and kidney transplant medicines, I understand that PhilHealth is interested in covering also out-patient medicines for diabetes and hypertension. They have an existing pilot program with a generic drugstore that they might scale up soon. Hence, while access to essential medicines is still an issue, there are already several successful initiatives to address it since 2009.

On Pfizer’s differential pricing scheme, this is nothing new. This is standard practice after patent expiry. Companies will have different prices for different geographical markets. This is why, for example, the price in Thailand for the same product by the same company may be lower than in the US. What is new now is that differential pricing is being done within a single country. In the Philippines, this has been made possible because of the Certificate of Listing of Identical Drug Product (CLIDP) scheme of FDA, which allows a manufacturer to provide several marketing companies a “daughter CPR” from its Principal (“mother”) CPR. This means that two or more marketing companies can source a drug from a single manufacturer, and each one is free to price it depending on its cost structure and intended market.  As anyone in the pharmaceutical sector knows, medicines are priced depending on what the company thinks the “market” will accept. The definition of “market” depends on the population segment the company wants to serve. If SEC (socio-economic class) AB, then one would expect a company to price it higher than another company which wants to serve the SEC D market. Theoretically, a company may choose to cater to both the SEC AB and SEC D using identical products, except for the packaging and the go-to-market strategy. There are many reasons why a company may want to do this – for CSR purposes, to have a flanking brand, to protect its market share, or as a product life cycle management strategy, among others. Each company will have its own reasons.

On the GMAP, it is actually a voluntary price reduction by selected companies in response to the government’s request. There is nothing illegal in it, Nonoy. In truth, almost all molecules (except for one) covered by the Executive Order imposing MDRP are Pfizer products, for reasons all of us know. Atorvastatin (LIPITOR) is one of them. This means that the current LIPITOR price is already 50% lower than its pre-MDRP price. If indeed, Pfizer is supplying Rhea an atorvastatin product that is identical (same manufacturer, same shape and color of tablet) to LIPITOR and it is 40-60% cheaper than the current post-MDRP LIPITOR price, then we should welcome this. Doctors and patients (who continue to prescribe or buy LIPITOR despite the presence of its generic equivalents) may be advised to shift to Rhea Atorvastatin so they can save.  (I bought samples over the weekend, and what James says is true. LIPITOR and Rhea atorvastatin are identical.) Kung ayaw ng RiteMed o Pharex (okay ba, Beau?), then LIPITOR users can shift to Rhea Atorvastatin. Switch and save, sabi nga ng Watsons Generics. Rhea, by the way, is only available in MDC.


I was told that Pfizer is also supplying Rhea Mefenamic Acid. I checked this over the weekend, and it’s true. Totoo nga, parehong-pareho. Same manufacturer, same color and shape of tablet as PONSTAN. The only difference is the price – PhP 3.90 for Rhea Mefenamic Acid and PhP 31.25 for PONSTAN, or almost 10x the Rhea price. This is even bigger than the Rhea atorvastatin savings. Remember Sec. Pagdanganan during the Cheaper Medicines Law campaign? Remember when he was comparing the PONSTAN prices in the Philippines and India and wondered aloud why the big difference? J

While I disagree with James on the price control proposal, we should nevertheless thank him for his continuing advocacy of patients’ right and welfare. C’mon, none of us in this email loop has done more individually for patients than James has. He was an influential voice during the Cheaper Meds campaign and he was instrumental in persuading PhilHealth to cover out-patient oncology medicines, especially for childhood leukemia. At the last META Board meeting, we noted the continuing absence of patient organizations (except the Psoriasis group now) in META. Until now, the access campaign in the Philippines has largely excluded patient groups. Maybe it’s because patients’ hands are already full coping with their condition and they find tiring the endless discussions/arguments that we have. However, if we are to have meaningful changes in the healthcare system, the voices of the patients have to be given primacy. It is a real issue for them, life and death, not a theoretical one as it is to some of us. Kaya James, saludo kami sa iyo. Yes, kindly give the same passion you gave to Cancer Warriors to your advocacy for Lolo and Lola. Sadly, many of us are either compromised or do not have the courage to do that.

Hala, masyado nang mahaba itong email ko. Bottomline, I agree with Nonoy that price control is not the answer. Competition is. The fact that Pfizer is now in the generics arena through Rhea should be a cause for celebration. Now, the LIPITOR and PONSTAN prescribers or users who are not comfortable switching to existing generic brands will have the option of switching to Rhea. Trust me, parehong-pareho sila. This is what competition is all about.

-- Joey Ochave

Thanks Joey. I believe that majority of players and stakeholders in the PH health sector never support or advocate price control or price dictatorship. When the issue became sensationally hot in early to mid-2009, there was never a "health crisis" or emergency, only a political crisis for then Sen. Mar Roxas who was too desperate to raise his low ratings as a Presidential candidate.

Re studies about the impact of price control, it is in the law that the DOH should submit a report to Congress Oversight Committee on RA 9502 at least once a year, and submit a report to the President two times a year. I think this was never done by the DOH, or if ever it did so, those reports were never made publicly available, freely downloadable.

Leonie Ocampo of PPhA, Reiner Gloor of PHAP then, Beau Agana of PCPI, have made several presentations showing that (a) drug prices have been declining even before the 2009 price control because of growing competition among drug manufacturers and distributors, and (b) only the overall revenues of affected innovator companies were affected but volume wise, their sales have not significantly increased. Someone taking Norvasc 1 tablet a day against hypertension does not take 2 tablets a day simply because the price is cut by half. Ma-'undertension" na sya noon :-)

Price differentiation, market segmentation, is a natural thing to do for private enterprises. The prices of a can of Coke in a sari sari store, 7-11, Mini Stop, SM grocery, Rustan,s, Itallianis, Shangrila, Intercon, etc., can vary widely. Same product, same volume, same packaging, same manufacturer, and yet have different prices. Because they cater to different buyers and consumers. The same practice applies to a bottle of C2 or a piece of Toblerone.

A tablet of Norvasc or Biogesic can have different prices in Mercury, Watsons, TGP, Aling  Merced drugstore, etc because they have different cost structures. Aling Merced and other small drugstores rent a small space and pay little on space rental, have no air-con and pay little on electricity, have no full time pharmacist and pay smaller on manpower, etc.