Sometime in mid-November 2001, I had a debate with Mr. Nicanor Perlas in the KOMPIL yahoogroups/ Mr Perlas was a known environmental and civil society organizations (CSOs) leader in the country then. He ran for President in the 2010 national elections as an independent, with no established political party to support him. He lost naturally, along with other candidates from small and non-established political parties.
The debate started with his critique of then NEDA Deputy Director General (DDG) Popo Lotilla over certain decisions of the Philippine Agenda (PA) 21. Since the focus of this paper is on the theoretical debate on the role of civil society, I removed discussions that focused on details of the debate then. I copy-pasted Mr. Perlas’ postings in pilipinasforum yahoogroups and that’s where a friend, Ozone Azanza was able to read and made counter-arguments against his points.
Here are the snipped exchanges:
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Dear Mr. Perlas,
You said,
the PCSD and PA21 take, head on, the challenge of globalization in the framing of its agenda, policies, and programs. In this way, the Philippines has a powerful alternative to the neo-liberal, radical free market approach of the World Bank, IMF, and WTO, an approach the NEDA is beholden to, an approach that is starting to collapse rapidly worldwide.
You said,
the PCSD and PA21 take, head on, the challenge of globalization in the framing of its agenda, policies, and programs. In this way, the Philippines has a powerful alternative to the neo-liberal, radical free market approach of the World Bank, IMF, and WTO, an approach the NEDA is beholden to, an approach that is starting to collapse rapidly worldwide.
The beneficiary of liberal flows of capital and international NGO funds consider free market as "an approach collapsing rapidly worldwide.”
In a number of papers and discussions, Mr. Perlas defines civil society as "an institution to challenge the totalitarianism of the state and the market". To which I don’t really buy. For me,
a. Markets - individual producers and traders, individual firms and consumers, from prehistoric times to the present - make the world go round.
b. State - an invention to correct market failures, address harmful "externalities", provide "public goods".
c. Civil society - an invention to correct state failures and inefficiencies, later lambast market's self-correcting mechanisms (such as de-monopolization of industries through deregulation & more competition).
Thus, I find the PCSD's composition - 16 from govt., 9 from civil society, 2 from labor (hence, 2 more for civil society), 2 from business - rather weird. The government bureaucrats and many self-styled civil society leaders outvoting business who provide jobs, who produce & trade the goods and services that give sustenance to the other 2 groups. And this set-up is almost "ideal, second to none", according to Mr. Perlas.
-Nonoy Oplas
I agree with you, Noy. There may really be some extreme positions that the civil society group of Mr. Perlas would want Deputy Director General (DDG) Popo Lotilla to endorse to the Office of the President. And of course, the good DDG would not be anybody's lap dog. As one of the only two real recognized experts in international law (the other would be Commie Haydee Yorac?) of course he would have to view things bearing the Philipines' various commitments in the international arena. The problem with SOME civil society groups/watchdogs is they act like kalesa horses. They can see well up ahead, but their peripheral visions are restricted. In a globalized market setting, nations can not be saddled by NIMBYism and other restrictive tendencies. The world is changing, and we have to change with it.
-Ozone Azanza
In a number of papers and discussions, Mr. Perlas defines civil society as "an institution to challenge the totalitarianism of the state and the market". To which I don’t really buy. For me,
a. Markets - individual producers and traders, individual firms and consumers, from prehistoric times to the present - make the world go round.
b. State - an invention to correct market failures, address harmful "externalities", provide "public goods".
c. Civil society - an invention to correct state failures and inefficiencies, later lambast market's self-correcting mechanisms (such as de-monopolization of industries through deregulation & more competition).
Thus, I find the PCSD's composition - 16 from govt., 9 from civil society, 2 from labor (hence, 2 more for civil society), 2 from business - rather weird. The government bureaucrats and many self-styled civil society leaders outvoting business who provide jobs, who produce & trade the goods and services that give sustenance to the other 2 groups. And this set-up is almost "ideal, second to none", according to Mr. Perlas.
-Nonoy Oplas
I agree with you, Noy. There may really be some extreme positions that the civil society group of Mr. Perlas would want Deputy Director General (DDG) Popo Lotilla to endorse to the Office of the President. And of course, the good DDG would not be anybody's lap dog. As one of the only two real recognized experts in international law (the other would be Commie Haydee Yorac?) of course he would have to view things bearing the Philipines' various commitments in the international arena. The problem with SOME civil society groups/watchdogs is they act like kalesa horses. They can see well up ahead, but their peripheral visions are restricted. In a globalized market setting, nations can not be saddled by NIMBYism and other restrictive tendencies. The world is changing, and we have to change with it.
-Ozone Azanza
