Party List 3: Marginal Parties Should Aspire to Become Big

A friend commented to one of my postings about the party list system. He wrote,

Hi Nonoy,
I am no fan of sectoral representation myself, but let's not dismiss the party list system altogether.

I agree, there is no such thing as solid sectoral interests. Sectoral lobby groups have their rightful place in advocacy. But for progressive legislaton to be passed, we need Lower House Representatives who will be taken seriously by trapo politicians, because they are backed by a
constituency that is serious about reform. Sectoral reps with narrow agendas will always be condemmed to the "margins" of the current political system that we have. It is no surprise that the party list reps who have gained some prominence to date are Etta Rosales and Satur Ocampo, or even JV Bautista -- all of whom represent multi-sectoral formations.

The party-list system of representation that we have is a hybrid, a mix of sectoral and proportional representation. It should be directed towards strengthening the proportional aspect. We should not encourage interpretation that stress that the party list is a voice of
the "marginalized". Instead it should be seen as an opportunity for non- traditional formations to enter mainstream politics and build a broad reform constituency to counter conservative elements.

In the long run, progressive agendas are not served well by this insistence on being marginalized. It's self-defeating. Party lists are in the business of competing (and winning) in elections. Textbook definitions of political parties state that parties are there to aggregate and articulate interests. This is a number game.

I thanked him for his comments. Actually I want to see Akbayan, Sanlakas, Bayan Muna, other current party-list groups evolve into a "real" political party -- challenging the Lakas, LDP, NPC, other traditional parties in some congressional districts, fielding local candidates
in some municipalities, cities and provinces.

By doing so, these groups can go beyond the 3 seats maximum at the House if they get lucky, and field Senatorial candidates someday -- on the assumption that the Upper House will not be abolished someday.

But I maintain my position: the party-list system should be abolished (together with the Senate) in the next round of constitutional change. parties should aspire to be big; if they cant do it on their own, they should learn the art of coalition with other small parties.

I also think that in future constitutional change, initiatives should consider going back to the two-party system. It's simpler because most policy questions are answerable by Yes or No. For instance, on the questions of government size and individual liberty:

a) Should govt. cut taxes, cut its services (welfare + bureaucracy), and let the citizens decide where to allocate their hard-earned income?
b) Or should government get more and higher taxes from the citizens, expand services (welfare + bureaucracy), so that govt. will decide where to allocate taxpayers' money?

c) Should government liberalize trade, let the tens of millions of Filipino consumers decide where to buy their needs, the Filipino producers and exporters where to sell their products?
d) Or should govt. restrict trade, protect the producers, but deprive the consumers of more options and liberty where to buy their needs?

These and similar policy questions are generally answerable by Yes or No. Hence, only two major political and economic philosophies will represent the citizens' aspirations. A multiple party system often contributes to muddled understanding of issues.
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See also:
Party List 1: Opportunism, 2001 Elections, November 28, 2005
Party List 2: Opportunism, 2004 Elections, December 12, 2005

Party List 2: Opportunism, 2004 Elections

(I wrote this sometime in April 2004)

Below is a list of the 57 political and sectoral parties, organizations and coalitions, participating in the party-list (PL) election this coming May 2004 elections. Of the 57 groups, 27 are sectoral parties (indigenous people, workers, women, peasants, etc.), 8 are political parties, and 22 are orgs/coalitions. See, despite many people's "despise" of Congress, so many groups and individuals want to become "Honorable Congressman/woman" also.

In the present Congress (May 2001 elections), of the 226 members of the House of Representatives, 20 (9%) are PL representatives. The dominant PL groups (2 or 3 reps) are Bayan Muna, Assn. of Phil. Electric Cooperatives (APEC), Akbayan, BUHAY, BUTIL Farmers party, Citizens Battle Against Corruption (CIBAC), and Sanlakas/Partido Manggagawa.

Why I am in favor of the abolition of the party-list system – through Constitutional Change since the system is constitutionally-mandated, (also the abolition of the Senate):

(1) As earlier discussed, my bias is towards a small or Minimal Government, both in the Executive and Legislative Branches and hence, will require smaller taxes to maintain, smaller interventions in our private lives. Any new govt. agency or institution created or expanded would mean new or higher taxes, duties, fees, etc. exacted from us taxpayers. In the legislature, some benefits to us citizens are unclear, but the costs are very clear: P4.7 billion/year in annual appropriation, tens of billions of pesos of pork-barrel/year, etc.

(2) We either have district representation or PL representation, but not both. What sector or PL group will represent a young female vegetable farmer, physically disabled, Mangyan?
A youth rep. who may be based in M.Manila?
A women's rep. who may also be based in M. Manila or Cebu?
A farmer rep. who may be based in N. Ecija or Davao?
A handicap rep. who may be based in M.Manila or other provinces?
An indigenous people rep. who maybe based in Baguio or Cotabato?
But the lady is living in Oriental Mindoro.
Well, it's possible that all those PL sectoral reps. will take up her cudgels.
It's also possible that not one of them will take up her cudgels as they may not
have the resources to travel all over the country.

(3) Since some PL groups already have nationwide network -- like Bayan Muna, APEC, Akbayan, Sanlakas/PM -- me thinks they can challenge those traditional pol. parties and their politicians in selected provinces and Congressional districts. Hence, the spirit of PL, of voters electing mainly the pol. party and
secondarily the politician representative, is retained, even in District representation system.
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POLITICAL PARTIES / SECTORAL PARTIES / ORGANIZATIONS / COALITION  PARTICIPATING IN THE PARTY-LIST SYSTEM
(from www.comelec.gov.ph)

I. SECTORAL PARTY ACRONYM

INDIGENOUS CULTURAL COMMUNITIES
1. Assalam Bangsamoro People's Party ASSALAM
2. Ang Laban ng Indiginong Filipino ALIF
3. Partido Katutubong Pilipino KATUTUBO
4. Suara Bangsamoro SUARA

ELDERLY
1. Aging Pilipino Organization, Inc. AGING PINOY
FISHERFOLKS
1. Bahandi sa Kaumahan ug Kadagatan BAHANDI

HANDICAPPED
1. Alyansa ng may Kapansanang Pinoy AKAPIN

LABOR
1. Partido ng Manggagawa PM
2. Trade Union Congress Party TUCP

OVERSEAS WORKERS
1. Organisasyon ng Manggagawang Mag-aangat sa Republika OMMAR
2. Gabay ng Manggagawang Filipino Party GABAY-OFW
3. Migrante Sectoral Party of Overseas Filipinos and Their Families MIGRANTE
4. Visayan Association of the Philippines BISA

PEASANTS
1. Butil Farmers Party BUTIL
2. National Federation of Small Coconut Farmers Organization, Inc. SCFO
3. Novelty Entrepreneurship & Livelihood for Food, Inc. NELFFI
4. COCOFED - Philippine Coconut Producers Federation, Inc. COCOFED
5. Visayas Farmers Party AGRIFIL

PROFESSIONAL
1. Alliance of Volunteer Educators AVE

URBAN POOR
1. Alagad ALAGAD
2. KALOOB - Kaisang Loob Para sa Marangal na Paninirahan KALOOB
3. People's Movement Against Poverty PMAP

VETERANS SECTOR
1. Veterans Freedom Party VFP

WOMEN
1. Abansei! Pinay
2. Gabriela Women's Party GABRIELA

YOUTH
1. Ang Nagkakaisang Kabataan para sa Sambayanan ANAK NG BAYAN

II. POLITICAL PARTY ACRONYM

1. Akbayan! Citizen's Action Party AKBAYAN!
2. Alliance for Nationalism and Democracy ANAD
3. Anakpawis AP
4. Bayan Muna BAYAN MUNA
5. Bigkis Pinoy Movement BIGKIS
6. Buhay Hayaan Yumabong BUHAY
7. Partido Isang Bansa, Isang Diwa * ISANG BANSA, ISANG DIWA

Subject to the final resolution of SPP No. 04-099,
entitled "Petition to forfeit, cancel and delist the registration
as a political party of Partido Isang Bansa, Isang Diwa",
pending before the First Division.
8. Lapiang Manggagawa LM

III. ORGANIZATION/ COALITION ACRONYM

1. Alyansang Bayanihan ng mga Magsasaka, Mangagawang Bukid at Mangingisda (ABA) and
Adhikain at Kilusan ng Ordinaryong Tao (AKO) Coalition ABA-AKO
2. Advocates and Adherents of Social Justice for School Teachers and Allied Workers AASJS
3. Farmers and Fisherfolks Aggrupation of the Philippines, Inc. FFAPI
4. Ahonbayan AHONBAYAN
5. Alab Katipunan AK
6. Alyansa ng Sambayanan Para sa Pagbabago ASAP
7. Association of Philippine Electric Cooperatives APEC
8. An Waray AN WARAY
9. Anak Mindanao AMIN
10. Bagong Tao Movement BTM
11. Barangay Association for National Advancement and Transparency BANAT
12. Citizen's Battle Against Corruption CIBAC
13. Cooperative NATCCO Network Party COOP-NATCCO
14. Confederation of Grains Retailers Association of the Philippines GRECON
15. Mindanao Federation of Small Coconut Farmers Organization MSCFO
16. Philippine Association of Retired Persons PARP
17. Philippine Confederation of Drivers Organization and
Alliance of Concerned Transport Operators PCDO-ACTO
18. Philippine Guardians Brotherhood, Inc. PGBI
19. The True Marcos Loyalist (For God, Country and People)
20. Sagip-Kapwa Foundation, Inc. SAGIP-KAPWA
21. Samahan ng mga Mangangalakal Para sa Ikauunlad ng Lokal na Ekonomiya SMILE
22. Sanlakas SANLAKAS

Pol. Ideology 4: Comments to Minimal Government Manifesto

(I posted this in the MG yahoogroups in August 2004)

A friend who teaches Economics at Ateneo de Manila U, Cielo Magno, showed her class a copy of Minimal Government Manifesto and the Addendum to the Manifesto. Cielo is teaching Public Economics to undergrad Econ. majors. Cielo sent me a compilation of her students' comments. Man, 21 pages long, single space, from 23 students. (Cielo, thanks a million for this compilation; the comments are both amusing and educational)

Her students agreed that I post their comments, unedited. I am posting here 3 of those 23 comments. The first, from TJ Lumauig, is almost 100% supportive of MG philosophy. The 2nd, from Ferdinand Nokom, is almost 100% critical. the 3rd, from Stephanie Tiu, is somehow neutral.

After these 3 papers, a friend Chi-chi B. gave additional points.
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(1) TJ Lumauig

I have always believed that the biggest and most severe problem of the Philippine economy, though virtually impossible to measure accurately, is corruption. This obviously points to the government. It is no secret that a lot of corruption takes place within the government. How often do we hear of one person embezzling millions from here, and someone else extorting millions from there? It is a disturbing thought to think that a big chunk of tax payers’ money meant for the good of the country is merely going to pockets of government officials. Not only from the elected officials does corruption take place, but even from their family members who should not even have any hold on administrative duties. So in much agreement with the Minimal Government Movement I ask the question, does the country really benefit from the government?

First and foremost, I believe that our government is way too big. A country like the Philippines does not need a government of our size. For example, if the roughly 19 million citizens of the state of New York can be represented by only 2 senators – like every other state in the US – why does the 8 million citizens of the Philippines – less than half the size of NY – need 24 senators? Common sense would tell us that a group of 100 would be easier to lead than a group of 1000. But then why is a small country like the Philippines in such turmoil? The government is just too big. Each added member of the government results into an added salary for citizens to pay for plus the hanging threat of another possible corrupt official. This implies that citizens pay even more taxes that probably will not even be used for the country. And for what? To have someone act like they’re doing something despite having many other officials with almost the same exact duty assigned to them? In this sense, our excessively large government with its overlapping duties does more harm than good for the Filipino people.

I strongly agree with the principles of the Minimal Government Movement. The Philippine government should be minimized to a certain number of specific duties. This way, people would not be held back too much, and would be able to work to their potentials. Also, corporations would be of better quality in the hands of the private sector since they would naturally compete to earn revenues. Another aspect of minimizing the government is that it could better focus on its more important duties rather than spreading itself too thinly, barely implementing its rules and policies. This way, the government would become more efficient instead of adding problems.

In a small country like the Philippines, a large complex government is not needed. What the country needs in order to develop is the proper use of its capabilities that are often held back by the government. By giving markets more freedom, reducing unnecessary taxes on citizens and most importantly reducing the number of possibly corrupt officials, the Philippines can better develop as a country.

(2) Ferdinand C. Nokom Jr.

I think that the Manifesto of Minimal Government has good ideas in mind yet some of the proposals they have in mind are rather questionable. It is good that indeed, the government should cut down on its size, for a large chunk of the government budget is allotted for salaries of inefficient government employees. Bureaus and other government agencies should be merged or shut down, in line that their function often overlaps with other agencies and maintaining them is a waste of manpower and taxpayer’s money. Federalism is also a good idea for the LGU’s as it promotes independence and efficiency for there is no waste of time trying to beg for higher officieals to address the needs of the local governments. But on the other hand, this power for the LGU’s has the threat of corruption in it, for it gives more power to these officials and traces of nepotism can be seen in the long run with this system.

Streamlining the tasks of the government, along with the agencies of National Defense, the Senate and Congress, and decentralizing the power and more importantly the money (as seen with the pork barrel) of the Senate is good, as all the point brought up by the Manifesto in support to their statement of decreasing the size of government is good, for this rids the government of scrupulous elements in office, or those running for office to get a shot at stealing the taxpayer’s money, and promotes capable men into the position for there is less gain for them financially, with the reduction of size in the government and more focus on performance. But, The premise of eliminating income tax and corporate tax is quite questionable. As of now, income tax is the biggest contributor to government revenue. Although setting a flat rate of 10% income tax is promising, would that be enough to fund the nation? What would be good maybe, is to set the 10% flat rate to the low to moderate income families and set harder taxes on those on the higher income bracket of society. I think they should not remove corporate tax, and also the premise of imposing consumption tax is good so that there would be somewhat of “equality” in taxation. Another questionable premise is complete trade liberalization. How can we ensure that our goods can compete in equal footing with imported goods? Would we not run the risk of being flooded with imports and the killing of the local industries with that move? All in all, the premise of a minimal government intervention is quite promising, yet it still has its questionable premises that may not be of good to the country.

(3) Stephanie Rinna Lim Tiu

The concept of the Minimal Government as a whole seems like a very good way to improve the efficiency of the government and, at the same time, reduce the costs incurred by the government. I agree with the Manifesto that the government should only be limited to a few functions and leave the provision of goods and services to the market. I also agree with the government that there should be a streamlining of the tax structure and a curtailing of the intervening and regulating of the government.

However, there are also some points which I do not agree with like the emphasis on greater individual responsibility and making social services like education and health care a parental responsibility, not a state responsibility. I would like to point out that the income distribution in our nation is already very skewed in favor of the citizens who belong to the A and B class. These citizens do not send their children to public schools or public hospitals because of the quality of service that they receive there. These moneyed citizens can afford to pay more in order to get better medical or educational services for them and their families. But from the perspective of the masses (most of who live below minimum wage), what they are earning is barely enough to provide for the survival of their family, how can they even consider sending their children to private schools or go to private hospitals when they are sick? What the government should focus on is improving basic social services such as education and health and view it as an investment for the nation’s future.

The current situation in the Philippine educational and health system is such that there are not enough schools or hospitals to provide for the needs of the Filipinos, what more if we decide to leave the provision of healthcare and education to the individuals instead of the government? It would mean more uneducated citizens because only a minority can afford to pay for the education of their children. It would also mean more deaths and diseases because the masses cannot afford the vaccines and medication that are required when someone is sick. There is a reason why education and health care are considered “public goods”, privatizing these social services would encourage private corporations to find a way to profit from these basic services. Some might argue that the voucher system would be a good replacement for the public elementary and high schools but, realistically speaking, most private schools are also already filled to capacity and using the voucher system would mean compromising the quality of education because of the added demand and limited supply. Privatizing state universities and colleges (SUCs) would indeed raise revenue for the government to help them retire many of their maturing public debts but it will be at the expense of its people because they are the ones who have to suffer the repercussions and find ways to finance their education.

One very good point of the Minimal Government Manifesto is the simplification of the tax structure by adapting a minimum of 10% flat tax for individual income and shifting revenue collection from income tax to consumption tax. The continual increase and introduction of new taxes over the years has eaten up a lot of our disposable income and has had a very negative effect on the economy. The government seems to see raising and introducing taxes as a solution to helping service our national debt. However, they do not seem to see that it just increases the opportunity for corruption in tax collection. It is not the taxes that are the problem, it is the tax collection. While we do need taxes to help finance the projects and programs of the government, it should not be seen as a way to milk the people for revenue to help fund more projects and debt servicing.

What is called for here is a massive shift in the structure of the government and the mindset of the people about the government. The government has its flaws and weaknesses in trying to fulfill its duty: to ensure the welfare of its people. We, as a nation, have constantly had a very negative view of our government and this results in our apathy on anything concerning the government. If we are to be successful in implementing the Minimal Government, it requires the support and faith of the Filipino people in its government. The cooperation of the Filipino people will be a crucial part of the success of the Minimal Government. There is still a long way to go for the implementation of the Minimal Government: reviews and studies of the principles that are advocated, coming up with programs that will test the efficiency and improvement of the new system and improving on errors, and last, but not least, gaining the support of the Filipino people. But I believe in the potential of the Minimal Government because I can see how it can, in the long run, improve the situation of the Filipino people. It might not be smooth sailing, especially when it is first introduced, but I have faith that, given time, the Filipino people will see how it has improved their lives and they will find it easier to adapt to a new system of government.
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Additional comments here from Chichi, she's got good arguments. My addendum after her comments. Posted in the MG yahoogroups in August 2004

Hi Noy,

Here are possibly additional ammunition you may consider to address the issues raised by the Ateneo Econ Class to the Minimal Government Manifesto.

1. Unregulated markets tend to become monopolies/oligopolies, thus, government has to step in to prevent that.

As a "diplomatic" strategy (don't know if you agree though), it may be correct to concede a bit since the theory does support the existence of natural mono/oligopolies in some but not all industries. Thus, government involvement may be required but only in terms of enhancing existing and future contestability of these few markets, instead of direct participation in that market (either through production or trading). For the rest of the "healthy" markets, no "cure" is necessary.

However, government sometimes chooses to create "super" markets by politicizing ("these markets must never, ever be allowed to fail") certain industries like oil and rice that can otherwise be considered healthy. I feel government is also justified in wanting peace of mind in this regard, but again, the appropriate response is just to ensure free entry and exit for private sector players who will work for market equilibrium. We are seeing this in oil.

Sadly, this is not happening in medicines because of imperfections in the distribution side. Thus, instead of actually setting up more public drugstores to correct this, government should probably just have a more vigilant enforcement of the generics law and help in educating sick people of generic options.

2. Profits are bad.

Only permanently, abnormally high profits are bad since they are the fruits of unhampered monopolies/ oligopolies. Government should try to weaken these profits only if the great majority of Filipino consumers (and not necessarily Filipino producers) feel the pinch, and again, not by offering direct competition but by allowing others to offer the competition. Smart and Globe have had a spectacular run with profits, enough to attract Sun Cellular to join the fray, but there's no need for government to lift a finger yet since the intense competition among the three have yielded better services for cellphone users.

3. Abandoning education and health care to parents will worsen inequality.

I agree that the existing wording seems "heartless." If I remember correctly, the public welfare argument that an initial equilibrium assumes equal endowments (or is my memory just too rusty?), and in the absence of that utopia, we can settle for equal opportunities provided by universal education. Why should we penalize future productive citizens for having lazy parents? Pardon if this bias runs contrary to minimal government, but perhaps shrinking the public education sector can just become a long-term goal, to be achieved only once income inquality is reduced to an "acceptable" rate.

Healthcare is a different matter though. There is somehow a moral hazard problem here since there are diseases that can be avoided, lung and liver problems from smoking and drinking, heart problems from having the wrong diet, etc. Perhaps, government can do its part in just stressing disease prevention and health management in schools, and coordinate/help the donor, socio-civic and corporate communities in their healthcare activities. National government could probably just get involved in times of epidemics or disasters. Personally though, this is a tough call for me. Lands have been sold and children sent to Japan for the sake of expensive healthcare for loved ones, despite the existence of public hospitals and Philhealth. I personally believe this sector needs a second look.

4. Further trade lib will gobble up many small and medium industries.

From the other side of the coin, only trade protectionism allowed these industries to thrive in the first place. Government decided to play God by choosing the winners who are assured of the mark-ups in the amount of the tariff protection. These winners are not necessarily small since they have the resources to convince government to pick them - cement, steel, sugar. Livestock and poultry producers have the numbers to make politicians listen, but the majority of these producers do not have the scale to benefit commercially from high tariffs.

In the meantime, what happens to the equally small, if not smaller, banana-que, barbecue and lechon manok vendors who would continue to feel the profit squeeze? What prospective use of these protected products would otherwise have sprouted if their prices had been more affordable? Maybe if these products had been more affordable, many of our fellow Filipinos would not resort to eating instant noodles or plain sauces as ulam and scrimp on nutrition.

Sometimes, we forget the main reason why we want to support certain sectors -- we want to encourage supply so consumers would always have access to these important things in life. But with trade protection, the world is giving us access but we just don't trust them enough to supply us regularly, in the end, making consumers make do with relatively inexpensive goods, a premium for "a more assured" supply. Such assurance is not actually credible since virtually all products can suffer from supply shocks, e.g., pest on our onions, FMD on our pork, etc.

5. On minimal government not being suitable to Philippine conditions.

We have to admit MG principles are ambitious, but our government's complexity warrants a long period of implementation. MG approach should be likened to weaning rather than cold turkey, and such weaning should start now. Otherwise, it will continue to grow and become more complex.

In the meantime, other Filipinos will continue to do their work to improve the economy, produce better prepared graduates, rear future citizens with precious values, etc., a never-ending process. However, MG has chosen this advocacy because of a perceived vacuum in the marketplace of ideas for reduced government intervention. MG principles will hopefully be adopted if the time is right for such principles. But it would never be considered if the issues are not raised, forced or flagged.

Chichi

Hi Chi,

On your points in #1, you're right on natural monopolies. I failed to take note of that phenomenon in my answer. Yes, there is government role there -- to make entry and exit of new players/producers easier and less cumbersome, often through many regulations by the Executive branch, and franchising laws by the Legislative branch.

On the distribution problem in medicines, I think a more effective way to solve this is to allow more drugstores to enter the market, including foreign-owned drugstores and pharmacies. I am not sure if drugstores are among the "no to foreigners" sectors in the Constitution. If so, constitutional change to remove these restrictions in medicines/drugstores and other sectors or industries will be the long-term solution.

On #2, yes, monopoly/oligopoly profits are bad since these are attained through "rent-seeking" activities, sponsored and maintained by the state. I wrote this in my answer to the students' comments: "Many market imperfections (monopolies, oligopolies, cartels, other variants) are actually state-sponsored, state-created and maintained: single or limited franchises through legislation, trade protectionism, cabotage law, bureaucratic red tapes to prevent competition, etc."

On #3, yes, it should be pointed out clearly that leaving basic education and health care to parental responsibility, not state responsibility, is a long-term goal and should not be adopted in the short- and medium-term (ie, not in the next 5-10 years, even longer). On health care, one solution I could think of is to further deregulate medical education. Some schools which offer BS Medicine on 6 years total (vs. the current 8 years, 4 pre-med, 4 proper medicine) should be allowed. Supply of medical students and graduates is rather low because of the expensive and long training period. More physicians, more private clinics and hospitals, more competition among health care professionals, more affordable health care.

Re. disasters and calamities, I observe that private sector initiative in giving aid on these situations is high and widespread. Civic clubs (rotary, jaycees, lions, kiwanis, Knights of Columbus, etc.), the church, village or homeowners associations, media, etc. are often seen in these projects. My sister's rotary club (she's president of one sosyal RC in makati) for instance, will construct 3 elem. school buildings in a remote barangay (no electricity) somewhere in Batangas province within her 1 year term. My brother-in-law's RC also in makati has various livelihood programs and scholarships for several college students for Aeta people in Zambales.

On #4, I don't think foreign traders and investors will be interested to produce banana-que, barbeque, litson manok, etc. These products are better sold in small production and marketing units like a street corner and small stalls.

Finally on #5, yes, MG's philosophies and goals are ambitious. When I consulted with Dr. Noel de Dios around 2 months ago about the MG Manifesto, he encouraged me to pursue it because it's an ideological and philosophical paper. We just have to engage our folks, other people, on the role and limits of government; and hence, government's limits in taxing our income, consumption, savings, investments, etc. No organization in this country has ever attempted to consistently take this challenge. Tayo pa lang. With the current fiscal and debt problems of the country where the government is scrambling where to further tax us, there is great need to challenge the politicians, media, other statist-oriented people, to shrinking government as an alternative to more taxes.

regards.

Nonoy
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See also:

Pol. Ideology 1: Minimal Government Manifesto, October 18, 2005

Pol. Ideology 2: Evolution of Market and State, October 25, 2005

Pol. Ideology 3: Liberal vs. Libertarian, November 06, 2005

FIGS 1: World's highly indebted countries

There are several indicators to see a country's indebtedness and fiscally irresponsible governments (FIGs). Foremost of them is total external debt stock, measured in billions of US$. Among the developing world, Brazil tops, with $235.4 billion in 2003. Another indicator, expressed in percentage, is the share of external debt stock to a country's exports of goods and services, including remittances by its workers abroad. Table below shows the world's 15 most indebted country using the second indicator.

First column is country name, second column is total external debt stock (in $ Billion), and third is total external debt stock as % of its exports of goods and services:

1. Burundi, $1.31B, 3,051% (!)
2. Sao Tome and Principe, $0.34 B, 1,773%
3, Liberia, 2.57, 1,522%
4. Sierra Leone, 1.61, 1,5152%
5. Cent. African Rep., 1.33, 1,061%
6. Rwanda, 1.54, 974%
7. Congo Dem. Rep. 11.17 , 923%
8. Guinea Bissau 1.54, 891%
9. Malawi 3.13, 660%
10. Ethiopia, 7.15, 621%
11. Lao PDR, 2.85, 611%
12. Sudan, 17.50, 561%
13. Eritrea, 0.64, 543%
14. Niger, 2.12, 542%
15. Zambia, 6.42, 529%

(source: WB, Global Development Finance (GDF) 2005)

In terms of absolute amount of foreign debt, the following are the most indebted developing countries (column 2 is debt in $ Billion, column 3 is debt as % of exports of goods and services), 2003:

1. Brazil, $235.4B, 299%
2. China, 193.7, 48%
3. Russia, 175.3, 128%
4. Argentina, 168.2, 473%
5. Turkey, 145.7, 232%
6. Mexico, 140.0, 74%
7. Indonesia, 134.4, 176%
8. India, 113.5, 120%
9. Poland, 95.2, 150%
10. Philippines, 62.7, 141%
11. Thailand, 51.8, 59%
12. Malaysia, 49.1, 44%
13. Hungary, 45.8, 102%
14. Chile, 43.2, 174%
15. Pakistan, 36.3, 232%

(source: WB, GDF 2005)

Party List 1: Opportunism, 2001 Elections

I dug this info in pilipinas forum yahoogroups' message archive. Even professional and business groups, even big political parties, were registered as party-list of "marginalized sectors", what a crap of opportunism the party list system is. Anyway, here's the list of all accredited party-list groups in the May 2001 elections.
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Accredited Political Parties/Sectoral Organizations/Coalitions for the Party-List System

(As of 28 March 2001)

Labor Sector Acronym

1) All Trade Union Congress of the Philippines ATUCP

2) All Workers Alliance Trade Unions AWATU

3) Democratic Workers Party DWP

4) One Way Printing Technical Foundation, Inc. ONEWAY PRINT

5) Partido ng Manggagawa PM

6) Pilipino Workers Party PWP

Peasant Sector

7) Alyansang Bayanihan ng mga Magsasaka Mangagawang-Bukid at Mangingisda ABA

8) Philippine Coconut Producers Federation, Inc. COCOFED

9) Federation of Land Reform Farmers of the Philippines, Inc. FLRF

10) Luzon Farmers Party BUTIL

11) National Confederation of Irrigators Association NCIA

12) National Federation of Small Coconut Farmers Organization, Inc. SCFO

Fisherfolk Sector

13) Alyansa ng mga Mamamayan at Magdaragat sa Lawa ng Laguna, Inc. ALYANSA

14) People Power Party People Power

Urban Poor Sector

15) Adhikain at Kilusan ng Ordinaryong-Tao para sa Lupa, Pabahay, Hanapbuhay At Kaunlaran
AKO

16) Alternative Approaches of Settlers Advocacy for the Holistic Advancement of the Nation Party AASAHAN

17) Kaloob-Kaisang Loob Para sa Marangal na Paninirahan KALOOB

18) National Urban Poor Assembly NUPA

19) Organisasyon Kaugnayan Nasyonal sa Pag-Unlad O.K.NAPU

21) Sandigan Maralita SM

22) Tapat Foundation, Inc. TAPAT

Indigenous Cultural Communities Sector

23) Development Foundation of the Philippines, Inc. DFP

24) Katribu-Mindanao, Inc. KAMI

25) Partido Katutubong Pilipino KATUTUBO

26) Tribal Communities Association of the Philippines, Inc. TRICAP

Elderly Sector

27) Alliance of Retired Postal Employees and Senior Citizens, Inc. ARPES

28) Senior Citizens/Elderly Sectoral Party of the Philippines ELDERLY

Handicapped Sector

29) Alyansa ng may Kapansanan sa Pilipinas AKAP

30) Pilipinong Maykapansanan Party PINOY MAY K

Women Sector

31) Abanse! Pinay ABANSE! PINAY

32) Womenpower, Inc. WPI

Youth Sector

33) Alliance for Youth Solidarity AYOS

34) Alyansa ng Nagkakaisang Kabataan ng Sambayanan para sa Kaunlaran ANAKBAYAN

35) Kabataan ng Masang Pilipino KAMPIL

36) Kilos Kabataang Pilipino KILOS

37) Philippine People's Parliament -Youth PPP-YOUTH

Veterans Sector

38) Federation of Sons & Daughters of Philippine Veterans, Inc. LAHING VETERANO

39) Veterans Care and Welfare Organization VETERANS CARE

40) Veterans Federation Party VFP

Overseas Workers Sector

41) Ang Bagong Bayani-OFW Labor Party OFW

42) Ang Lakas ng Overseas Contract Workers OCW

43) Gabay ng Manggagawang Pilipino Party GABAY OFW

44) Party for Overseas Workers' Empowerment and Reintegration POWER

45) Union of the Filipino Overseas Workers (Unifil), Inc. OCW-UNIFIL

Professionals Sector

46) Alay sa Bayan Para sa Kalayaan at Demokrasya ABAKADA

47) Alliance for Greater Achievements in Peace and Prosperity AGAP

48) Alliance to Alleviate the Socio-Economic and Social Order, Inc. AASENSO KA

49) Ang Ipaglaban Mo Foundation AIM

50) Asosasyon pasa sa Kaunlaran ng Industriya ng Aklat, Inc. AKLAT

51) Chamber of Real Estate and Builders Association, Inc. CREBA

52) Philippine Association of Detective and Protective Agency Operators, Inc. PADPAO

53) Philippine Dental Association PDA

54) Philippine Medical Association PMA

55) Philippine Society of Agricultural Engineers (Partido Unlad Agrikultura) PSAE

56) Philippine Technological Council PTC

57) Professional Criminologist Association of the Philippines PCAP

58) United Architects of the Philippines, Inc. UAP

Organizations/Coalitions

59) A Peaceful Organization Leadership, Friendship, Service Movement APO SERVICE

60) Aabante Ka Pilipinas Party (Sagip-Bayan Movement) APIL

61) Aalagahan ang ating Kalikasan Nationwide ALAS

62) Aarangkada ang mga Handa Oras-oras para sa Bayan AHOY

63) Abante Kilusang Kooperatiba sa Gitnang Luzon AKK

64) Abay Pamilya Foundation, Inc. ABAYPAMILYA

65) Agrarian Reform Beneficiaries Association, Inc. ARBA

66) Ahonbayan, Inc. (Formerly Alliance Foundation for Rural Dev, Inc.) AHONBAYAN

67) Alliance for Meritocracy AFM

68) Alliance for Alleviation of National Governance and Trust Party AKA

69) Aluhai Neighborhood Association, Inc. ALUHAI

70) Alyansa ng Kooperatibang Pangkabuhayan Party ANGKOP

71) Anak-Mindanao AMIN

72) Ang Lakas ng Bagong Kooperatiba, Inc. ALAB

73) ANGAT ANGAT

74) Aniban ng mga Magsasaka, Mangingisda at Manggagawa sa Agrikultura-Katipunan, Inc. AMMMA

75) Asa at Samahan ng Karaniwang Pilipino ASAKAPIL

76) Asosasyon ng mga taga Insurance sa Pilipinas, Inc. ATIP

77) Association of Builders, Consultants and Designers, Inc. ABCD

78) Association of Philippine Electric Cooperatives APEC

79) ATIN (Abante Bisaya) ATIN

80) Bagong Bayani Organization BAGONG BAYANI

81) Balikatan sa Kabuhayan Buhay Coalition BSK

82) Bantay Bayan Foundation Party, Inc. BANTAY-BAYAN

83) Bantay Dagat, Inc. BDI

84) Bayan na Nagtataguyod ng Demokratikong Ideologiya at Layunin, Inc. BANDILA

85) Bigkis Pinoy Foundation BIGKIS

86) Bonding Idealism for National Human Initiative BINHI

87) Businessmen and Entrepreneurs Association, Inc. BEA

88) Citizens Anti-Crime Assistant Group, Inc. CAAG

89) Citizen's Battle Against Corruption CIBAC

90) Citizens Drug Watch Foundation, Inc. DRUG WATCH

91) Citizens Foundation for the Prevention of Crimes and Injustices, Inc. CITIZEN

92) Citizens' Movement for Justice, Economy, Environment and Peace JEEP

93) Coalition for Consumer Protection and Welfare COALITION 349

94) Confederation of Homeowners' Association for Reforms in Governance, and Environment, Inc. HOMEOWNERS

95) Confederation of Non-Stock Savings and Loans Associations, Inc. CONSLA

96) Consumers Union of the Philippines CONSUMERS

97) Cooperative Natcco Network Party COOP-NATCO

98) Cooperative Union of the Philippines, Inc. CUP

99) Council of Agriculture Producers, Inc. CAP

100) Demokratikong Ugnayang Tapat sa Sambayanan DUGTUNGAN

101) Federation of Jeepney Operators and Drivers Assn of the Phils, Inc. FEJODAP

102) Go! Go! Philippines Movement Go Go Philippines

103) Green Philippines GREEN

104) Green Philippines Foundation, Inc. GREENPHIL

105) Kabalikat (ng Bayan Party) KABALIKAT

106) Katarungan sa Bayan Tagapagtanggol ng Sambayanan KABATAS

107) Katipunan ng mga Bantay-Bayan ng Pilipinas, Inc. KABAYAN

108) Kilusan Tungo sa Pambansang Tangkilikan, Inc. KATAPAT

109) Luzviminda Economic Development Foundation, Inc. LEDFI

110) Mamamayan Ayaw sa Droga MAD

111) Maritime Party MARITIME

112) Mindanao Federation of Small Coconut Farmers Organization, Inc. MSCFO

113) National Confederation of Tricycle Operators and Drivers' Association of the Philippines
NACTODAP

114) National Council of Community Organizers, Inc. NCCO

115) National Federation of Sugar Cane Planters NFSP

116) Nationwide Association of Consumers, Inc. NACI

117) Pambansang Samahang Lingkod ng Bayan, Inc. PASALBA

118) Pambansang Sangguniang Katipunan ng mga Bgy Kagawad ng Pil, Inc. KATIPUNAN

119) Partido ng Maralitang Pilipino- Pinatubo Party PMP-PINATUBO

120) Partido ng Maralitang Pilipino- Pinatubo Party PMP-PINATUBO

121) Philippine Association of Retired Persons PARP

122) Philippine Jury Movement JURY

123) Philippine Local Autonomy Movement, Inc. PLAM

124) Philippine Mine Safety and Environment Association PMSEA

125) Philippine Reformist Society PRS

126) Port Users Confederation, Inc. PUC

127) Prime Movers for Peace and Progress PRIMO

128) Progressive Alliance of Citizens for Democracy PACD

129) Rebolusyonaryong Alyansang Makabansa RAM

130) Sama-sama kaya natin 'to Foundation, Inc. KASAMA

131) Sanlakas SANLAKAS

132) Security United League on Nationwide Guards, Inc. SULONG

133) Sports and Health Advancement Foundation, Inc. SHAF

134) True Marcos Loyalist (for God, Country and People) Association of the Philippines, Inc.
MARCOS LOYALIST

135) Tindog Para Han Kabubuwason Para Han Waraynon TINDOG! WARAY

136) Volunteers Against Crime and Corruption, Inc. VACC

Political Party

137) ABAG PROMDI PROMDI

138) Akbayan! Citizens' Action Party AKBAYAN

139) Aksyon Demokratiko AKSYON

140) Alternative Action AA

141) Bayan Muna BAYAN

142) Bicol Saro Party BSP

143) Buhay Hayaan Yumabong BUHAY

144) Democratic Alliance DA

145) Gabaybayan GAD

146) Laban ng Demokratikong Pilipino LDP

147) Laban para sa Kapayapaan, Katarungan, at Kaunlaran KKK

148) Lakas NUCD-UMDP Lakas NUCD-UMDP

149) Liberal Party LP

150) Nacionalista Party NP

151) National Alliance for Democracy Party NAD

152) Nationalist Peoples' Coalition NPC

153) Organized Support for the Movement to Enhance the National Agenda OSMENA

154) Partido Demokratiko Pilipino-Lakas ng Bayan PDP-LABAN

155) Partido Demokratiko Sosyalista ng Pilipinas PDSP

156) Partido ng Masang Pilipino PMP

157) Partido para sa Demokratikong Reporma PDR

158) People's Progressive Alliance for Peace and Good Govt Towards Alleviation of Poverty and Social Advancement PAG-ASA

159) People's Reform Party PRP

160) Pusyon (Bisaya) Pilipino PUSYON

161) Rizalist Party RP

162) Social Justice Society SJS

Welfarism 2: France Riots, Taxes in Welfare States

From my readings of the 3-weeks riots in France, the usually-mentioned culprit for the anger by the rioters are: (a) the police's racism, arrogance and brutality to immigrants of African and Arab/North African origin; (b) high unemployment among immigrants, up to 40% or 4x the national average of 10% (and France has this 10% average unemployment rate for the last 30 years or more!), and (c) bad social conditions (housing, discrimination in work if ever employed, and so on).

The problem with the French police is an issue that can be addressed by Interior Minister Sarkozy and the police chiefs. The problem on unemployment and social discrimination I think, can be rooted to a "crisis of welfarism", of high expectations of welfare, and continuing disappointment of high taxes and over-regulation of business to maintain welfarism. This is a problem that has finally caught up with France, could spread to other European welfare states. Though France's situation is more unique and pronounce by virtue of its being a strong colonial power in the past.

France colonized dozens of countries in Africa; it even had colonies in Asia before -- Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia. When colonization officially ended, tens, hundreds of thousands from each of its former colonies went to France (especially the fallen rulers?). The migrants settled in France, produced offsprings who are France-born, expecting that they be entitled to the same welfare benefits as the "real" French, them white people with blue eyes, unlike them darker skin with black eyes and kinky hair.

But France's welfarism is already overstretched. Its budget deficit always exceeds 3% of GDP every year, a problem it shares with Germany and Italy and which angers many smaller countries in the EU who struggle hard to keep their budget deficit below 3% of GDP. France's public debt comprises 66% (or 2/3) of its GDP as of 2004 (data from IMF, World Economic Outlook 2005). And the unfunded liabilities of the social security system is estimated to be around 200 percent of GDP. The expenditures for public welfare, farm subsidies and other services always exceed tax collections and other revenues. And rightly so since France's taxes are among the highest in the world. Top marginal income tax rate is 48 percent, add in payroll taxes and productive citizens pay as much as 65 percent of their income in taxes. Who's happy surrendering 2/3 of his/her monthly income to the government? The top corporate tax rate is 34 percent and value-added tax (VAT) is around 20 percent.

A Frenchman friend told me that while many productive French people are leaving France, went to UK, US, Eastern Europe, other smaller-taxes economies (well, at least compared to those in continental European countries), the population of its welfare-dependent citizens and migrants continue.

Another problem of welfarism is over-regulation of labor laws, business and entrepreneurship. To hire employees means: (a) lots of additional fees to pay (workers' health insurance, unemployment insurance, etc.); (b) workweek is only 35 hours; (c) mandatory paid vacation leave is 5 weeks; (d) family and maternity leave is 36 weeks; and (e) it's very difficult and bureaucratic to lay off or fire employees. If you are an entrepreneur and faced with such rigid labor laws, while business and personal taxes are high, why hire more people? Better do it yourself, or move your shop or factory to Eastern Europe or Asia or the US where taxes are smaller and labor laws are less rigid. This largely explains for the high unemployment in France, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Italy, other European countries.

So, the cycle of high expectations of welfare and disappointment with high and multiple taxes and rigid labor laws is a trap that sustains discrimination and high unemployment. Now, if my hypothesis (ie, being a hypothesis, subject to test by facts and counter hypothesis and theories) that this is a "crisis of welfarism", then the current riots is one slam-dunk proof against socialism-inspired policies of the French government. The free-market system of less government intervention, less bureaucracy, less taxes, more entrepreneurship and more individual responsibility, is an old idea that continues to elude the political leadership of France and many welfarist countries.

The upcoming WTO Ministerial meeting in Hong Kong could be one opportunity for the high welfare, high agricultural protectionism countries, to slowly go back to the free market system. Simply slashing high farm subsidies, and slashing the high taxes that finance such huge farm subsidies, would provide justice not only to the over-taxed citizens of rich countries, but also to the farmers and agri-business enterprises in poorer countries.

From someone in a poorer country (the Philippines) writing about these things, some people in rich countries might train the gun back and say, "now, look who's talking!" But precisely the main reason why our country is poor, is because of the same high government interventionism, high and multiple taxation, over-regulation of labor laws and entrepreneurship, that many of our people are poor and unemployed.

Taxes in Welfare States

Many people, ordinary citizens and government leaders alike, in the poorer countries, envy the "free education, free hospitalization, long paid vacations, generous unemployment benefits,..." of many welfare states of Europe and other rich economies. I don't know if they also realize that maintaining a welfare state is very expensive for the taxpayers. After all, government has nothing to give to people except what it takes from other people.

Below are some data I got from the IMF's Government Finance Statistics (GFS) Yearbook 2004. Revenue = taxes + social contributions + other revenues (fees, charges) and grants. The taxes (various forms of income and consumption taxes) comprise between 1/2 to 2/3 of government revenues. Many of these fees and charges are not called as taxes because they are only created by administrative orders, not by the legislature or the Parliament. Nevertheless, whether they are called taxes or non-taxes fees and charges, they have one thing in common: they are mandatory and compulsory payment to the government.

General Government Revenue as % of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), 2003 (unless specified):

1. Denmark, 59.3% (of which taxes, 47.1%)
2. Sweden, 58% (taxes 35.2%)
3. Norway, 57.3%
4. Finland, 52.9%
5. Austria, 50.8% (2002)
6. Belgium, 50.5%
7. France, 50.4%
8. Luxembourg, 46.6%
9. Italy, 46.1% (2000)
10. Netherlands, 45.7%

11. Germany, 45.0%
12. Iceland, 44.8% (2002)
13. Portugal, 41.7% (2001)
14. Canada, 40.8%
15. United Kingdom, 40.1%
16. Spain, 39.9% (2002)
17. Switzerland, 37.5% (2001)
18, Australia, 36.8%
19. United States, 31.8% (taxes 18.7%)

Some Asian economies:

1. Hong Kong, 15.3% (2002)
2. Thailand, 20.9%
3. Malaysia, 26.3%

Note from the above numbers that the US' welfare system is less taxing than those in Europe. In fact, the US' government revenues as % of GDP is nearly 1/2 of those in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. This partly explains why the US attracts more entrepreneurial people from many parts of the world, than Europe. But many Asian and Eastern European countries with smaller taxes and lesser government regulations are attracting more and more professionals and investors from both North America and Western Europe.

* See also: Welfarism 1: Dependence vs. Individual Responsibility, October 17, 2005

Foreign Aid 3: Bob Geldoff and More Aid

July this year, Presidents and Prime Minsters from the US, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Canada and Russia held a G8 summit meeting in Scotland, UK, to discuss more foreign aid, global warming, etc. Bob Geldoff (and Bono and other rock stars) organized the "Live8" series of rock concerts in major cities of the said 8 countries. Their mission: pressure the G8 leaders to commit "more aid", "debt write-offs", to many African countries, to "make poverty history".

One free-market group in London, the International Policy Network (IPN), organized the "Global Development Summit" (GDS) on June 28. I was one of the panel speakers then, it was my first time to see London and UK, thanks IPN :-).

A day before the conference, I revised a famous song (IPN Exec. Director Julian Morris helped me) by Bob Geldoff in the 80s, "I don't like Mondays", and here's what we produced, below. We sang it on stage before the formal conference started.

Original song:

I don't like Mondays
(by Bob Geldoff, Boomtown Rats band)

The silicon chips inside her head
that switched to overload
and nobody's gonna go to school today
she's gonna make them stay at home
and daddy doesn't understand it
he said she was as good as gold
and he can see no reasons
cause there are no reasons
what reasons do you need to be shown
oh-woh-woh-woh

Tell me why -- I dont like Mondays
Tell me why -- I dont like Mondays
Tell me why -- I dont like Mondays
I wanna shoooooot, the whole day down!

Our revised song:

I don't like more aid

The G8 leaders are planning more aid
and that would mean, more taxes
and nobody's gonna go to shops today
they're gonna slash your take home pay
and Blair doesn't understand it
he said he'd wipe out poverty
and he can see no reasons
cause there are no reasons
what alibi you need to be shown
oh-woh-woh-woh

Tell me why -- i dont like more aid
Tell me why -- i dont like debt relief
Tell me why -- i hate protectionism
I wanna shoo-oooooot
The monopolists! :-)

(Chords pattern: C-G-F-G// Am-G, F-G)
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See also:
Foreign Aid 1: MDG Goals = More Debt Addiction, October 26, 2005
The Circuitous and Leaky Process of Foreign Aid, November 03, 2005

Pol. Ideology 3: Liberal vs. Libertarian

This is a short exchange we have in MG yahoogroups sometime in July 2004:
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Liberal vs. Libertarian

During the MG's QC meeting 3 weeks ago at QC we bumped into Chito Gasco (former UP USC chairman, 1987 Con-Com member, now DepEd UnderSec. He's also a member of the Liberal Party), he has also a meeting in another table. I gave him a copy of the MG Manifesto, he read it.

After his meeting, he approached us, said, "Pare, ikaw ba 'to? Malayo sa UP image mo noon a!... Pare, we are liberal but not libertarian. Kasi sabi nyo dito, 'education, health, etc. should be mainly parental responsibility, not state responsibility'. Paano, iyan ang hinihingi ng mga tao". I countered, "Kasi pare, iyan din pinapangako ng mga pulitiko". Tawanan na lang kami.

A person or politician can be liberal with doling out welfare -- education, health care, housing, basketballs, trophies, financing a kasal-binyag-libing (KBL), etc. But the same politician can be liberal in taking away -- partly of fully -- your earnings, your income, your wealth, your inheritance. A government that is big enough to give everything you want is also big enough to get everything you've got. Right? So, liberal with welfare, liberal with more or higher taxation.

A libertarian, on the other hand, emphasizes individual liberty, coupled with individual responsibility. I included this philosophy in the opening paragraphs of The MG Manifesto, minus the label.

So you work hard, you keep your earnings and income. You pay those goods and services that give you, your family, your friends, happiness and comfort. You don't expect that other guys will pay for your child's education, for your spouse's hospitalization, etc. Government practically has no role here. That's an ultra-libertarian view.

The Minimal (or limited, small) Government movement is not ultra-libertarian. Otherwise it will be a Zero Government movement. We're liberal with economic policies because we advocate freer markets, foreign trade and investment liberalization, free mobility of people/technology/ culture across countries. But we're not that liberal with welfare and taxation.

Still, as I mentioned earlier, we shall have that "Vaporize Government" section in our MG website. It will accommodate the ultra-libertarian views and papers. Submit to me such papers, other documents,

-- Nonoy

mang nonoy:

as a recent article in Tech Central Station said, the trouble with libertarianism is that there is no single libertarianism but many libertarianisms. so i cannot really say if the animal you are referring to is "ultra libertarian".

if MG is not liberal on taxation, then philosophically, MG supports theft. taxation is extortion. under the threat of force by the "state", an individual is asked to "pay" taxes. for one's own protection, one has to pay tong/taxes (walang pinagkaiba sa mafia). if an individual is not free to use his/her income the way he/she wants it (because he has to surrender a large part of it to the tong collector), then essentially, he is a slave of the tong collector. an individual works for the tong collector/MG. in essence MG is no different from a regular "government". an individual still has to pay the mafia to leave him alone. what will MG do if an individual does not give the MG the tong? aber?

-- ariel

Dear Ariel,

The problem with us, people in a modern day society is that we are defined basically by our proprietary rights. For instance, we have an official name that we need to tag ourselves with in order to deal about anything in the society. That alone needs government. Secondly, we need to own things, basic as they may be. We need clothes, shelter and food. When we buy clothing or a roof over our heads, we want to be sure we can keep it, meaning, we can "own" it. Otherwise what would stop your 6-foot four neighbour from barging into your house and throwing you out and keep all your clothes and including perhaps your children and wife for himself. We need government to uphold that, don't we. Becuase if you start owning a gun to keep the cro-magnon away, then he starts owning a bazooka. We need government to keep those simply things working, eh? But let's say cro-magnon elects to uphold your property ownership rights, you'll have to pay him don't you? And in the way of the world, cro-magnon becomes the leviathan we now call government.

We pay him, by way of taxes, and going back to the olden situation, we are actually paying him by choice. Because we need him now as much as we need the basic stuff like clothing, shelter and popcorn, este, food.

The mafia you don't need. The government, you do. I mean we can split hairs here until we all turn blue, of course.

I am in this MG thingy because consistent with what the MG manifesto advocates, i believe in max. efficiency in governance, and the need to increase self-dependency. I believe that there are excess fat somewhere that we can do without in the bureaucracy. We can merge, we can cut, we can dissolve some parts. But we have to support our claim with detailed analysis on where the excess fats are. Anyone can easily claim that we should streamline the leviathan, but what others can not do, that we can do, is start looking in specific dark corners of the bureaucracy. We have enough libertarian philosophies and collection of motherhoods e.g. just in the MTPDP of NEDA alone. MG has to be different by going the extra mile of detail.

GMA is slashing OP of 16 attached agencies, but on the other hand, is also creating 2 new offices to suit her "needs". MG can be aligned in these moves by presenting papers that zero in on the excesses, and coming up with workable methods to minimize the collateral damage to those who will lose their jobs, in order to make a step realistic, not only for thinkers like us, but also for the real people out there who will be in the cross-fire of the change we want to happen.

Oh. and as to the MG general philosophy/equation of Minimal Government = Minimal Bureaucracy = Minimal Taxes, somehow it gives the semblance that the final objective of MG is minimal taxes. I was made to believe that this is about individual freedom and increase in self-dependency and responsibility. Maybe the equation requires to be extended up to that point.

By the way, re: this liberal vs. libertarian thing, I think MG is closer to Ayn Rand's objectivism than anything else. At least objectivism might not have as many shades of grey than libertarianism.

-- Ozone

Yeah, Ariel, MG supports consumption tax, not income tax. We need tax bec. we still need a small govt. We still need a Supreme Court and lower courts. We still need a foreign affairs ministry or dept. and an Armed Forces. We still need a public works ministry where private road construction firms still feel they can't absorb into revenues the benefits that a particular road will bring. We still need a President or Prime Minister as head of the country, even for just symbolic function.

If you accept that we need a small government (say, only 5 departments + the Judiciary), then we need small taxes. If you accept that we need no govt., then we need no taxes and fees.

But if you believe that absolutely we dont need taxes, no government, go ahead! Start a Zero Government (ZG) organization or movement. No problem, man. I'm sure there are other individuals who believe in the same philosophy.

-- nonoy

believers in zero government do not need any movement. they just do their thing, produce, enrich themselves, trade with other free market believers, etc. and evade as much as possible the claws of the terrocrats. that's their main difference with the libertarians. The libertarians (like the libertarian party in the US), they still run for government positions. zero gov't believers just enjoy life without further complicating it. they don't impose on others, either their views or taxes.

– Ariel

Noy, I must express similar apprehensions about ultra-liberatarianism because I don't feel comfortable with its extreme utilitarian leanings. While stressing the principles of individualism (private choice and individual rights as well as individual responsibility) and limited government, we should also stress the rule of law, the natural harmony of interests, and the common good (and NOT the greatest good for the greatest number) which consists of both the principles of solidarity and subsidiarity.

The question of whether the State should provide for education, health care and the like will depend on, I think, whether state intervention will generate greater positive externalities compared to leaving it to the private sector. Even Adam Smith thinks there should be some role of government in these sectors. The term "Vaporize Government" suggest we want to do away government, when it fact we just want to the State to promote the public interest without sacrificing private good. I think the State infringes on individual preferences when some fool of a congressman proposes that the government should mandate a 2-child policy!!! I guess that's why we need to discuss these core ideas in our first workshop this Tuesday. cheers,

-- John

Allow me to inject a cautionary remark. I think we are all agreed on the basic principle, that we are trying to achieve minimal government. My understanding of this group effort is to form opinions, formulate strategies and wield them in such manner as to achieve changes in the present scheme of things. From where I sit, mingovt is not -nor do we want to be- a rant and
rave group. Even as we may get long winded, in the process we must be resolute, seeing as we have to work within a system rather than having to nfight the multi-headed monster on all fronts.

John makes an excellent point: The term "Vaporize Government" suggest we want to do away government, when it fact we just want to the State to promote the public interest without
sacrificing private good

It's good for us to blow off steam, but if to achieve our objectives effectively, it is best for the group to sit down and discuss core issues, devise strategies, divide work, and proceed in an organized fashion.

Having said that, I realize the movement (if I may call it that) is in its birth Wehen...
and I am pleased to be part of it.

-- Rica

* See also: Minimal Government Manifesto