It was Dr. Ciel Habito who asked Pernia that questions. Now notice this statement:
Last week, Dr. Pernia replied in my fb wall where I tagged him on this subject. He wrote,
I replied, "Ok Sir Ernie, what is the non-malicious explanation why (a) PH government should get new foreign loans when many projects were already under integrated PPP (not "hybrid" that require new loans, or new public spending and hence, new taxes), and (b) why China loans considering that China interest rates are high, and China Communist Party is a theft of PH territory?